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Looking for a good wide pips with thick sponge that has reasonably smooth pip tops to use on my forehand
My style is to attack or block from close to the table on forehand with wide pips
On backhand I use Hurricane 3 Neo spinny spinny inverted and open points with slow loops to setup my hard aggressive forehand smashes using wide pips
I know how much Scholer hates pips & how he banned all frictionless pip top pips of all types in 2008
But may be there are some closest to smooth top pips like Butterfly Resilon that I used before 2008 ban
I loved that rubber

DMS wildfire
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SpinLord Waran
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Dr.Neubauer Killer Pro
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These are good but all are European
Shipping seems expensive from Europe
I can only buy Chinese here in Pakistan

So these rubbers give the most spin because they are frictionless?

Mike 7222 wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2026, 5:38 am So these rubbers give the most spin because they are frictionless?

Nothing can be further from the truth.

I think this moronic myth seems to be pervasive among the clueless which includes most players even experienced ones
This nonsense exists mostly because of Manika Batra using them
Yes the Tibhar DTec OX is relatively frictionless on pip top.
But the heavy spin reversal it creates does not come from the pip tops at all
I comes from the pips being thin, long & flexible & the material used t make these pips
If anything the relatively smoother pip tops actually reduce some spin created by other 3 variables above
Tibhar Dtec is so popular among the pips users not because it has more reversal bt more because of it disruptive effect due to relatively smoother pip tops, higher pip flexibility & material used to make these pips & to some extent the thin rubber base

In fact if the pips of the Tibhar Dtec were ribbed more it would make an excellent rubber for away from table choppers with more back spin ( & less unpredictable meaning more controllable). In fact this would be a Feint Log 2 or 3 or Victas Curl P1 on steroids (Of course all these 3 rubbers are utterly useless in the 40+ plastic ball only era but that is an entirely different matter

Pedarx wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2026, 4:58 am DMS wildfire
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The red rubber looks really frictionless
How is it approved