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Ethics of deception & disruption in table tennis

Posted: July 27th, 2025, 9:26 am
by Keabetswe
What are your opinions about this subject ?

Re: Ethics of deception & disruption in table tennis

Posted: July 28th, 2025, 6:35 am
by Dougla
Deception :- Ther is lot of deception with serves table tennis as compared to other racket sports.
This leads to lots of third ball & fifth ball plays & lots of errors at lower levels.
This is on eof the main reasons table tennis will remain mostly a participant spoet & will never have the fan base like tennis
There is no way to address this because the ITTf is controlled by players who want third ball plays.
The best solution is to keep these serves only in alternate game & the other games of the match should be LIHA like rules to eliinate the impact of serves & longer rallies for spectators

Disruption :- The illegally spein glued & boosted loops sink as they dive down with exceessive top spin & cause quick end to rallies.
Again, this is show the former looper players who control th eITF want to keep it. So there is no solution

Re: Ethics of deception & disruption in table tennis

Posted: July 28th, 2025, 6:38 am
by Dougla
On the flip side we have deception & disruption created by frictionkess type rubbers.
I will get into thi sbut I will wait to see if anyone will comment on the development of frcitionless rubbers has evolved over the years and why.
I don't think almost anyone has a clue about this history

Re: Ethics of deception & disruption in table tennis

Posted: July 29th, 2025, 12:36 am
by James Z
The original intended purpose of introduction of long pips & anti in early to mid 19770s was neither deception nor disruption. They were introduced primarily as a tool for choppers to provide :-

1. better control (in the case of anti)
&
2. better control as well as more back spin (in the case of long pips)

So originally neither anti nor long pips were deliberately designed to create deception or disruption

Away from the table choppers quickly rejected anti in favor of long pips because long pips also gave more back spin in addition to more control.
I am not aware of any high level pro (away from the table) chopper that chose anti over long pips since that time. I am not sur even at semi-pro levels but there may have been a few

The (click on link) robotNazis quickly identified this and saw long pips as a major nuisance as highlighted by Liang Geliang . So robotNazis forced the ITTF to ban long pips at the 1977 BGM in Birmingham.

But the ITTf has cleverly continued to call (click on link) slim pips as long pips since 1977

Continued in next post , so as not to make a huge single post

Re: Ethics of deception & disruption in table tennis

Posted: July 29th, 2025, 12:51 am
by James Z
The initial deception & disruption with earlier anti & long pips was by no means intentional and an unfortunate by product.

The 80s could be considered even peaceful & even the golden age of choppers .

But what followed was a tit for tat battle about slim pips bewteen two German equipment dealers Scholer & Dr.Neubauer during mid to late 1990s into 2000s . Now though Scholer is no longer with ITTF afetr successfully decimating all the advantages of slim pips, the battle has shifted to controlling the anti rubbers

To keep the story short, Scholer , an equipment dealer was of all places , on the equipment committee of the ITTF.
It is indeed impressive of Scholer to have pulled this off because it is as bad a conflict of onterest as it can be
What is more impressive is that Scholer actually got promoted in ITTF as some vice president & even managed to run World Veterans Championships , one of the largest tournaments in the world with 6000 players in its last edition in 2024 at Rome (after ITTF ook over control and renamed it the World Masters Championships) .

Continued in next post , so as not to make a huge single post