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[quote;joejoe] wrote on Monday April, 14, 2025 at 9:26 PM #1 in the illegal Table Tennis discussion forum called TableTennisDaily
Hello all, I am looking to buy a long pips rubber for a project and it needs to be able to produce as much spin as possible. Ideally it would be something relatively wallet friendly but I am open to discussions of all budgets. I am also open to any advice of treatments to increase the spin of pips rubbers.[/quote]

I think you are referring to slim pips rubbers listed on ITTF LARC.
There are NO long pips in ITTF's version of (Olympic) TableTennis especially in the current 40+ plastic ball ONLY era.
Long pips were banned by ITTF around 1977 . The slim pips (which is still deceptively called "long" pips by the TT to fool the ignorant clueless choppers) were further restricted around 1983 by setting the Aspect Ratio of slim pips at 1.3 (which essentially increased the minimum allowed thickness of slim pips to render them less functional back spin wise to preserve the effectiveness of spein glued loops of robotNazis ) . As if it was not enough therobotNazi controlled ITTF further reduced the Aspect Ratio of slim pips from 1.3 to 1.1 (which increased AGAIN the minimum allowed thickness of slim pips to render them even less functional back spin wise to further preserve the effectiveness of spein glued as well as boosted loops of robotNazis

ITTF has continued to call slim pips as long pips on their ITTF LATC to mislead clueless pips players.

This is absolutely true.
There are no actual long pips in ITTF TableTennis

The grippiest slim (flex) pips in ITTF TableTennis for players below 2200 level is KTL Stranger OX (Not the KTL Stranger with accidentally unapproved glue melt with these rubbers with sponge. The OX version is very clean) .
Feint Long 2 or 3 may be close but costwise I would not go with these & KTL Stranger OX is better
But keep in mind that all these are crap in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era

In real non-ITTF TableTennis world the grippiest actual long pips is Magic 77 but still far from being as good as it can be. Still far superior to ITTF LARC crap in terms of grippiness (and possible back spin)
Reach C-801 is also decent but harder to control as it has mushroom type pips (similar to the Yung 63-9A m that used by the most decorated female Olympian Deng Yaping before she switched to 755).
Both these rubbers are decent for both close to the table blocking as well as away from the table chopping.
The amount of back spin ( via spin reversal as well as spin generation) is far superior to siim (flex) pips crap o ITTF LARC but could be better because this is still not good enough to fully compensate for the (click on link to read >) 12 rule changes since 1977 passed by ITTF to limit, oppress and humiliate pips players especially choppers